Interview: Hirsh Goodman and Rami Khouri Discuss the Reaction to Today's
Cease-Fire Announcement Among Israelis and the Arab World

All Things Considered: February 8, 2005
www.npr.org/programs/atc/transcripts/2005/feb/050208.goodman.html
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Mr. HIRSH GOODMAN (The Jerusalem Report): Yes, there's no question about it,
this is the real turning point. And I think the four years of fighting have
made it a real turning point. It's a horrible thing to say, but sometimes
wars are necessary. And I think that this war's allowed Israelis and
Palestinians to speak eyeball to eyeball rather than the Palestinians being
on their knees and us dictating an agreement to them.
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