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Tuesday, November 9, 1999
INTERVIEW: RABIN CENTER SPOKESMAN ON PHOTOMONTAGE IN WEBSITE

Aaron Lerner Date: 9 November, 1999

IMRA interviewed Tal Ravina, media advisor to The Yitzhak Rabin Center for Israel Studies, in Hebrew, on 9 November, 1999:

IMRA: Your Website has under the headline ‘The Extremist Fringe' a photograph of the photomontage of Yitzhak Rabin in an SS uniform.INTERVIEW: RABIN CENTER SPOKESMAN ON PHOTOMONTAGE IN WEBSITE

Aaron Lerner Date: 9 November, 1999

IMRA interviewed Tal Ravina, media advisor to The Yitzhak Rabin Center for Israel Studies, in Hebrew, on 9 November, 1999:

IMRA: Your Website has under the headline ‘The Extremist Fringe' a photograph of the photomontage of Yitzhak Rabin in an SS uniform. In the English version www.rabincenter.org.il/english/leader1e.html the caption is ‘Demonstration of “women in Green” ' 26.3.95'
In the Hebrew version www.rabincenter.org.il/leader1e.html the caption reads ‘Protestors distributing photomontage of Yitzhak Rabin dressed in a Nazi uniform'.

As the record from the Shamgar Commission Report clearly states, GSS agent Avishai Raviv was responsible for the distribution of the photomontage.

Two questions: Does The Yitzhak Rabin Center claim that ‘Women in Green' is somehow linked to the GSS along with GSS agent Avishai Raviv? Why does the Hebrew caption refer to demonstrators distributing the photomontage instead of GSS agent Avishai Raviv?

Ravina: The text under the picture in the English version was an error. It was supposed to be on the picture above it. This is being corrected. As for Hebrew version, Avishai Raviv did not create the photomontage.

IMRA: I didn't claim he created it. Just that he distributed it.

Ravina: This picture was created by two minors from Habbad who created it and printed it in their father's print shop. All of this was in the court. This had nothing to do with Avishai Raviv.

IMRA: Excuse me. The person who took care to distribute it so that it would be photographed by Zoom 77 [the photo agency in the credit below the caption] and to Channel 2 was GSS agent Avishai Raviv and this was in the Shamgar Report. You used the term ‘demonstrators distribute' as the caption for the photo. ‘Distribute'. The distribution was done by GSS agent Avishai Raviv.

Ravina: No. No. We checked the Shamgar Report and in it it relays the testimony of Channel 2 reporter Nitzan Chen who says that the person who gave him one was Avishai Raviv.

IMRA: What is ‘distribution'? You yourself just told me that Avishai Raviv distributed it to the reporter.

Ravina: Aaron. Aaron. If you come to a demonstration and I give you a picture it doesn't mean that I either made the picture or am distributing the picture.

IMRA: Bottom line: Are you correcting the Website or not?

Ravina: We are correcting the English version. The only connection between Avishai Raviv and the picture ' unless something else develops at his trial ' which he denied ' is that Nitzan Chen says that Avishai Raviv gave him one. This would be the same as if there is a rally in which people have flags and someone comes over and gives one.

IMRA: That is to say that while the only person that is known to have distributed the material is Avishai Raviv, the Website won't be changed.

Ravina: What you are saying is not correct.

IMRA: A minute ago you yourself said that Avishai Raviv distributed it to a reporter.

Ravina: No. L'hafitz in Hebrew means ‘distribute'. He gave a copy of this picture to one correspondent.

IMRA: Now we are talking grammar. OK.

Ravina: No. No. No. It is good that you are recording this. There is a difference between my bringing something to a demonstration and handing it to people to cause them to hold it and that there is a demonstration with all kinds of signs and someone ' either a saint or a complete criminal ' took one and brought it to Nitzan Chen.

IMRA: Let's put it this way ' brought it to at least one reporter if not more.

Ravina: That he brought it to the reporter doesn't mean he brought it to the demonstration.

IMRA: I didn't say he bought it to the demonstration. Your caption claims that demonstrators distributed the photomontage. And you can't tell me about anyone else who you know in fact distributed the material besides Avishai Raviv.

Ravina: I have been a correspondent and you have been for a long time and you certainly have come to demonstrations and someone brought material up to you to bring to your attention. They didn't necessarily have anything to do with the material ' they may just get a kick out of interacting with the press.

Dr. Aaron Lerner, Director
IMRA (Independent Media Review & Analysis)
(mail POB 982 Kfar Sava)
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