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Sunday, November 23, 2014
Al Sisi: "We will help the police of the future State and we want to ensure the security of Israel."

[Dr. Aaron Lerner - IMRA: Only incredibly shortsighted Israelis should
welcome such a development. It takes the most mediocre imagination to come
up with scenarios how the presence of Egyptian troops inside Gaza and the West Bank could turn
into a catastrophe for the Jewish State]

"I'll tell you one thing: we are ready to send military forces into a
Palestinian state. We would help the local police and reassure the Israelis
through our role as guarantor. Not forever, of course. For the time
necessary to reestablish confidence. But first a Palestinian state must
exist where troops can be sent to."

"Egyptian Troops for Palestine '
Al Sisi: "We will help the police of the future State and we want to ensure
the security of Israel."
Confirmed hard line toward Morsi and "joint action" against terrorism

Franco Venturini Corriere della Sera. November 23, 2014 | 09:50
http://www.corriere.it/esteri/14_novembre_23/al-sisi-fattah-truppe-egiziane-la-palestina-2feddb18-72eb-11e4-9964-9b0d57bdf835.shtml
[Google translation from Italian]

Egyptian President Abdel Fattah to Sisi, which makes today a visit to Italy
and the Vatican before heading to Paris, has granted the BBC his first
interview with a western newspaper. The meeting, which was attended by the
director of the Corriere Ferruccio de Bortoli, was held in the presidential
palace in Heliopolis, Cairo. During his stay in Rome the president of Egypt
will meet President Giorgio Napolitano, President of the Council Matteo
Renzi, Senate President Pietro Grasso, Foreign Minister Paolo Gentiloni and
representation of entrepreneurs. Tomorrow will be received by Pope Francis.

Mr. President, what message are taking to top executives Italian?

"I want to ask Italy, even in his current role as President of the EU, to
explain to all of Europe what is happening in Egypt and how precious for all
Egyptian stability. Of course we also want to increase Italian investments
that are already significant but which could be much more. We are providing
some legislative adjustments that should help. We hope that tourism, Italian
and European recovers. But the basic message concerns the security policy,
the common fight against terrorism. Because if it is not common, it will not
work. What will also speak with the Pope, in particular the aspect that
concerns the security of religious minorities, Christians in the head. "

About terrorism, Egypt has suffered and many attacks in the Sinai where we
are almost at war but also in the big cities. Do you think that there is a
link between the attacks and infiltration Isis in the region?

"Terrorism is composed of many faces of the same coin, the Isis is only one
of these ideologies are common but the origin of all the terrorist groups.
We fight militarily against terrorism, of course. But at the same time we
are aware that no one can stop the threat without a real fight against
poverty, without interventions that serve to change a certain culture which
then leads to the ease of recruitment. Also on this is essential to work
together. "

It is the recent massacre in the synagogue in Jerusalem. You share the fear
that the clash radicalized religious confrontation between Israelis and
Palestinians? The Egyptian diplomacy has managed to cease hostilities after
the last war in Gaza, but even there the tensions are mounting ...

"The war of religion is a bogeyman to be avoided at all costs, but we need
components that sometimes lack. In the specific case must ensure security to
Israelis but at the same time restore hope to the Palestinians and the
creation of a Palestinian state is the best tool to fuel that hope. Then,
after the creation of a Palestinian state, it will open a long process, it
will take time to restore confidence between the parties, but is it not the
same happened between Egypt and Israel after we made peace? The initial
transitional period will be crucial, because the Israelis can not risk their
security and the Palestinians no longer have to make serious and reckless
acts that would, at that point, even self-defeating. Egypt is ready to help.
"

How?

"I'll tell you one thing: we are ready to send military forces into a
Palestinian state. We would help the local police and reassure the Israelis
through our role as guarantor. Not forever, of course. For the time
necessary to reestablish confidence. But first a Palestinian state must
exist where troops can be sent to."

But she spoke with the parties of this possibility?

"I've spoken at length with Prime Minister Netanyahu, I told him that goes
embarked a courageous way, otherwise it will not solve anything."

And with Abu Mazen?

"Of course, I have also spoken with him."

President, what is happening in Libya is of great concern both for Egypt and
for Italy. How we can emerge?

"Stabilize Libya is a priority for everyone, not only for our two countries.
Chaos reigns there, but mostly there you are creating bases jihadist
extremely dangerous. NATO has not completed his mission. Because after the
war that eliminated Gaddafi Libya has been abandoned? I do not think a new
military interventions and Egypt has not made and not fulfilled. Instead,
the international community must make a clear choice and collective in favor
of the national army in Libya and no one else. Aids, equipment, training
must go exclusively to the regular army which in time will have the means to
restore order. "

There is also the problem of migration flows to Italy ...

"I know, and I point out that this does not happen in Egypt, and not only
for reasons of distance. Italy can not tackle the problem alone, it is
obvious. But we need a strategy which has been much talked about and that
should be done urgently: you have to invest and create jobs in the countries
of origin. Human rights are defended even so. "

By the way, she was accused of exceeding in hardness against the Muslim
Brotherhood. Just this week by the prosecution was sought the death penalty
for his predecessor duly elected Mohammed Morsi, on trial as thousands of
Brothers who are equated to terrorists. There have been hundreds of death
sentences, not executed pending final rulings. And on 14 August last year at
Rabaa el Adaweya the intervention of the military has caused a massacre. Do
not fear that such an approach increases the social divisions in Egypt and
reduce security instead of increasing it?

"Look, it is you who exaggerates. We have just reacted. From 3 July 2013,
when Morsi fell under the pressure of millions of Egyptians, until August
14, when we had to restore normalcy in Cairo using force, the Muslim
Brotherhood could collaborate with the armed forces, nobody persecuted them,
were moving freely. Instead he gave to violence and created a permanent
illegal occupation in the area of ​​el Rabaa Adaweya attracting provocateurs
of all kinds. What should we do? We acted in the national interest of Egypt
and with the full consent of the population. As the trial of Morsi, it is a
request of the prosecution and we are at first instance, there is an appeal,
there is a long procedure and the same goes for the other. We do not
interfere in the course of justice. "

This type of relationship with the Muslim Brotherhood may change in the
future?

"I already said, depends on them. And by the judges. "

Then there is the other issue of the three journalists of al-Jazeera in
prison for more than three hundred days because they were accused of
spreading false information in support of the Muslim Brotherhood. Some have
seen in the heavy sentence a hostile gesture towards Qatar, with whom he now
reports could improve thanks to a Saudi mediation. But above all is at stake
his relationship with the media. There is something new on the horizon for
Canadian Fahmy, the Australian Greste and the Egyptian Mohamed Baher?

"If I had had the power to decide I would not have convicted, I would have
expelled. But now there are decisions of the judiciary, that we, I repeat,
we respect. But yes, something is moving in the sense that we ask the
question of how to resolve this situation. "

Perhaps applying the extradition decree promulgated in recent days?

"I can only say for sure that the decision may be taken correspond to the
interest of Egypt and no one else."

Just as it was in the interest of Egypt cutting subsidies on energy
products, which the IMF demanded by time?

"Precisely. The elimination of subsidies, not only in the energy field, is a
necessity for the Egyptian economy and that is why we have applied. We are
doing the best, but I am not satisfied. We have many millions of young
people out of work, how could I be happy? And I know that such situations
are related to safety, prevention of terrorism. This we have to understand
you too European, I in Rome and then in Paris will repeat it without getting
tired. Matteo Renzi came to Cairo, you know already, but I will return to
insist. To increase mutual security, but also because we know cooperating,
creating cultural links, narrows the Mediterranean. I give an example: our
Ministry of Culture is translating a work on the journey of the Holy Family.
One step, and many more should follow each other if we want to transform the
economic cooperation and security policy in a real, deep approach. An
approach which is in the mutual interest. "

Another step has accomplished her with the law against harassment to women.
Satisfied with the results?

"I'll answer again no. Of course, the cases have declined dramatically. But
a law is not enough, we must change the social custom, we have to get closer
to your model which also is not perfect. And to say that in Egypt of women
in positions of responsibility we have several. "

She has been criticized by many, but now seems to be the focus of renewed
international attention ...

"I responded to the criticism and the importance of Egypt is clearly
understood. With the US reports of friendship are back to better times. With
Putin, there is a good agreement. A New Year I will be visiting China. Fine,
but I want more Europe ".

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